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today, romney had a one-point lead in the real clear politics poll and pundits throwing suggestions in the ring of what president obama needs to do next week at the debate. here's a view of the past and the future. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i saw -- i thought, wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all these last two years. now, the problem with this deal is the deal was made by severe conservative mitt. that was how he described himself for two whole years. until three or four days before the debate they got together and said, hey man, this ship is sinking faster than the "titanic." just show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. i don't have that tax plan i had for two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. what are you doing? and if i eve been the president, i might have said, i hate to get in the way of this. i miss you. >> wow. >> 66 years old, ladies and gentlemen. open heart surgery just a couple of years ago. >> he can sti
today, romney had a one-point lead in the real clear politics poll and pundits throwing suggestions in the ring of what president obama needs to do next week at the debate. here's a view of the past and the future. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i saw -- i thought, wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all these last two years. now, the problem with this deal is the deal was made by severe conservative mitt....
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romney was getting hammered in the polls. keeping them honest though, disputing or downplaying the obvious, that's what campaigns do on both sides. >> it's not going to be about the polls. >> i wouldn't put a lot of weight in any of these national polls for the next couple days. >> in terms of mitt romney surging, just remember how much of a deficit he had to make up. he was in some cases double digits behind the president in all those attributes. >> pull back the reins. >> the media is focusing on one poll. >> that's reaction to the recent batch of polling, including that devastating pew poll that showed a four point romney lead. now consider that pew took an earlier poll in september a couple weeks before the debate, it was the republicans going ballistic when it showed romney eight points down. watch. >> these polls are basically just part and parcel of the campaign for barack obama to help him stay in this game as long as possible. >> if you believe what the polls are saying right now, you've got to believe that there's s
romney was getting hammered in the polls. keeping them honest though, disputing or downplaying the obvious, that's what campaigns do on both sides. >> it's not going to be about the polls. >> i wouldn't put a lot of weight in any of these national polls for the next couple days. >> in terms of mitt romney surging, just remember how much of a deficit he had to make up. he was in some cases double digits behind the president in all those attributes. >> pull back the reins....
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now, romney with the lead, 49-47 of likely voters in a glial lineup poll. things have swung dramatically. last night i told you colorado and ohio are still comfortably in president obama's camp and if they are nothing to worry about. new poll out, american research group, colorado, romney up by four. oops! >> ohio, as how goes the country goes? oh no! 48-47 romney in the lead in ohio at least according to american research group. all right, well, now conservatives have gotten so confident and cocky they're calling the election. >> the reason i think it's over of course, i thought it was over last week and the week before. romney's going to win. part of the evidence is this was the most watched debate since 1980 when reagan ran against carter and there was only one debate that year. what happened that year? that was the first time in the last 100 years republicans took out an incumbent. >> they're calling it. let's see how it turns out. fox late in the day said you know what, we've got a new map of our projections. that looks awfully red doesn't it? >> that'
now, romney with the lead, 49-47 of likely voters in a glial lineup poll. things have swung dramatically. last night i told you colorado and ohio are still comfortably in president obama's camp and if they are nothing to worry about. new poll out, american research group, colorado, romney up by four. oops! >> ohio, as how goes the country goes? oh no! 48-47 romney in the lead in ohio at least according to american research group. all right, well, now conservatives have gotten so confident...
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earlier we talked about the polls and mitt romney on the move. mitt romney spent 90 minutes on the stage lying about everything he claimed to stand for prior to the debate. he lied about his tax plan, he lied about his health care plan, he lied about medicare and medicaid and social security, he lied about deregulation, he lied about jobs, he lied about education. think about this. after campaigning for 18 months on a tax plan for the job creators there that will reduce their taxes 20% on personal income, cut capital gains taxes and business taxes, romney stood on stage with president obama and denied all of that. he told the american people that he really didn't have a plan, which my friends, is completely a 180. after saying it, every campaign stop for 18 months that he would repeal obama care on day one, he stood before the american people and said his plan would take care of preexisting conditions. after the debate, his campaign admitted it would not. romney says his health care plan, which passed in massachusetts, would be good for states. b
earlier we talked about the polls and mitt romney on the move. mitt romney spent 90 minutes on the stage lying about everything he claimed to stand for prior to the debate. he lied about his tax plan, he lied about his health care plan, he lied about medicare and medicaid and social security, he lied about deregulation, he lied about jobs, he lied about education. think about this. after campaigning for 18 months on a tax plan for the job creators there that will reduce their taxes 20% on...
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a pew research poll also gave romney the lead. president obama leads a separate gallup poll in a survey of re registered voters. romney is focusing in the battleground state of ohio for the second day today. no republican has won the election without winning ohio. >>> a congressional committee will meet today to discuss last month's deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. it's expected to focus on serious missteps by the state department. ambassador chris stevens and three others were killed in that attack. a state department official will be one of the witnesses to testify before the house oversight committee. he is expected to deny reports the state department ignored requests for additional security in libya in the weeks before the attack. >>> today the supreme court will hear a case on whether race should be a factor considered in college admissions. the nine justices will hear the case of abigail fisher. she says she was denied admission to the university of texas austin in 2008 because she's white. the university sa
a pew research poll also gave romney the lead. president obama leads a separate gallup poll in a survey of re registered voters. romney is focusing in the battleground state of ohio for the second day today. no republican has won the election without winning ohio. >>> a congressional committee will meet today to discuss last month's deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. it's expected to focus on serious missteps by the state department. ambassador chris stevens and three...
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president obama and mitt romney criss-crossed ohio, as more polls showed romney cutting into the president's lead, in the wake of last week's debate. and thousands of greeks staged angry protests against the visiting chancellor of germany, over her push for austerity policies. we have job search tips online. hari sreenivasan has the details. >> sreenivasan: headhunter nick corcodilos offers this advice. starting a business is actually a great way to network and land a dream job. that's on our making sense page. and on art beat, we have a new feature, the tuesday cut line. give us your best caption on the photo posted for a chance to win a newshour mug. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. judy? >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. on wednesday, we'll look at the battle for suburban voters in colorado. i'm judy woodruff. >> ifill: and i'm gwen ifill. we'll see you on-line, and again here tomorrow evening. thank you, and good night. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> they can be enlightening or engaging. conversatio helus lrn and grow. >
president obama and mitt romney criss-crossed ohio, as more polls showed romney cutting into the president's lead, in the wake of last week's debate. and thousands of greeks staged angry protests against the visiting chancellor of germany, over her push for austerity policies. we have job search tips online. hari sreenivasan has the details. >> sreenivasan: headhunter nick corcodilos offers this advice. starting a business is actually a great way to network and land a dream job. that's on...
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so latest polls, obviously this is a good time for the romney camp. it's nice to see a big bounce after the debate. but -- and that's a big but -- polls are finicky things. and they have to know in that camp that this is the precarious position, paul. >> reporter: yeah, they're not taking anything for granted, romney campaign officials saying that, listen, they see polls go up, they see polls go down. they're staying with their same strategy. thank you for that trip down memory lane. i've been covering this race for a year and a half, so i appreciate those memories. this is interesting. the polls were starten to tighten up even before last week's debate. take a look at this, though. this is our cnn poll of polls. this averages the three national surveys of likely voters, live operator, nonpartisan surveys, and look at that, mitt romney, 48%, president obama, 47%. in the previous polls before the debate, the president had the slight advantage. that's national. what about the states? because the race for the white house is a race for the states and thei
so latest polls, obviously this is a good time for the romney camp. it's nice to see a big bounce after the debate. but -- and that's a big but -- polls are finicky things. and they have to know in that camp that this is the precarious position, paul. >> reporter: yeah, they're not taking anything for granted, romney campaign officials saying that, listen, they see polls go up, they see polls go down. they're staying with their same strategy. thank you for that trip down memory lane. i've...
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the latest poll from american research group has romney leading 50% to 46%. last month the same survey had obama leading. so here is david sirota who is author of "back to our future," and cohost of a radio show. and he really knows what people are saying and things. welcome back inside "the war room." >> thanks for having me. >> jennifer: president obama was doing great until the debate in denver. what did you folks do to our president? >> i think this race was always fluid out here in colorado. there is a huge number of latino voters in this state, and mitt romney is doing terribly among latino voters. i think this will be definitely a turnout election. it is going to be a 2008 turnout or '2010 turnout, and what does that actually look like, and it's really anybody's guess right now. and i would say this, one thing that i think democrats can be -- can feel good about is that senator michael bennett was actually ail to win a closely contested u.s. senate seat in 2010? a bad year for democrats nationally. so colorado is hard to predict. >> jennifer: what are
the latest poll from american research group has romney leading 50% to 46%. last month the same survey had obama leading. so here is david sirota who is author of "back to our future," and cohost of a radio show. and he really knows what people are saying and things. welcome back inside "the war room." >> thanks for having me. >> jennifer: president obama was doing great until the debate in denver. what did you folks do to our president? >> i think this...
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early polls show mitt romney leading the presidential race this morning. according to a gallup survey, the gop candidate leads 49%-47%. president obama leads another gallup poll that surveys registered votes. >>> a congressional committee will meet today to discuss last month's deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. the hearing is expected to focu on security missteps by the u.s. state department. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed in the attack. a state department official will be along the witnesses to testify before the house oversight committee. he's expected to deny reports the state department ignored requests for additional security in libya in the weeks and months before the attack. the man believed to be behind the anti-muslim film that sparked riots across the middle east is due in court today. a federal judge will decide if mark bassly youssef should be sent back to prison. prosecutors say youssef lied to prosecutors and used aliases. he was behind the 14-minute film called "innocence of muslims" which led
early polls show mitt romney leading the presidential race this morning. according to a gallup survey, the gop candidate leads 49%-47%. president obama leads another gallup poll that surveys registered votes. >>> a congressional committee will meet today to discuss last month's deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. the hearing is expected to focu on security missteps by the u.s. state department. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed in the attack....
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epic-mra poll, obama, 48%, romney, 45%. we'll be right back. boy, they are close. >>> we're back. throughout this election year we've watched president obama and governor romney's campaigns carefully craft a message on who exactly their candidate is and what makes them tick. well, a pbs frontline documentary airing tonight is breaking through the talking points to find out what made these two presidential candidates the men they are in the words of their friends, family, enemies, and the reporters who have covered them. let's watch. >> he is a pragmatic business person. he's a guy who likes to take apart a problem and figure out how to get it fixed. >> barack obama is a fascinating mixture of boldness and caution but then once he makes a decision, it's usually the bold one. >> mitt romney has been accused of flip-flopping, but on mormonism he will never flip-flop. >> and yet in politics he has often tried to keep that part of him behind the curtain. >> the backlash against his presidency must be mystifying to him because he
epic-mra poll, obama, 48%, romney, 45%. we'll be right back. boy, they are close. >>> we're back. throughout this election year we've watched president obama and governor romney's campaigns carefully craft a message on who exactly their candidate is and what makes them tick. well, a pbs frontline documentary airing tonight is breaking through the talking points to find out what made these two presidential candidates the men they are in the words of their friends, family, enemies, and...
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the poll shows 49% favor romney, 47% support president obama. jan crawford is in akron, ohio, covering the romney campaign. >> the race is really tightening here in ohio, a state that romney must win. one poll has him up by one point, another by four. it's essentially a tie. what we're seeing on the campaign trail and yesterday, in fact, is romney taking one of the president's attacks and turning it on him. he's hammering for wanting to cut public funding. romney talks about a litany of issues facing america on the jobs, the economy and also, today, we have the big congressional hearing on libya. american crossroads, a group that is backing romney is out with a new ad against the president on libya. it is brutal. take a listen to this. >> the intelligence was there. clear signs of terrorism, but campaign politics came first. >> this comes against the backdrop of tomorrow night's vice presidential debate in kentucky, joe biden against paul ryan. polls show that people think ryan will win this debate, 55% compared to 39% for the vice president. th
the poll shows 49% favor romney, 47% support president obama. jan crawford is in akron, ohio, covering the romney campaign. >> the race is really tightening here in ohio, a state that romney must win. one poll has him up by one point, another by four. it's essentially a tie. what we're seeing on the campaign trail and yesterday, in fact, is romney taking one of the president's attacks and turning it on him. he's hammering for wanting to cut public funding. romney talks about a litany of...
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we saw the pugh poll that shows romney up a great bit. now the real news begins, the state by state by state polls. >> four weeks away. can you believe it. >> we have a few to report on this morning. >> the election is coming. the fight for battleground states, less than four weeks until election day in ohio where there are 18 electoral votes up for grabs. a new cnn poll conducted after the debate shows the president leading by four points, 51-47. romney has gained four points there in just over a week. in new hampshire a new wmur granite state poll showses in last nine day he's whittled the 15-point lead down to 6 points. national polls has romney edging ahead of barack obama for the first time this year. the question is, is this what happens naturally, or was this spurred by the debate? >> it doesn't happen naturally. it happens after an earthquake. >> really? >> there was a political earthquake last week, the likes of which i've never seen in american politics, where a shift happened that dramatically in one night. donny, you've seen t
we saw the pugh poll that shows romney up a great bit. now the real news begins, the state by state by state polls. >> four weeks away. can you believe it. >> we have a few to report on this morning. >> the election is coming. the fight for battleground states, less than four weeks until election day in ohio where there are 18 electoral votes up for grabs. a new cnn poll conducted after the debate shows the president leading by four points, 51-47. romney has gained four points...
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mitt romney is surging ahead of president obama in national and battle ground polls. will it have the obama campaign in panic mode? charles krauthammer says yes. >> the polls are dropping like a stone for president obama. they created an entire narrative about romney hundreds of millions of dollars of ads showing him as an unfeeling uncaring man who de lights in killing steel worker's wives in raising taxes on the middle class lowering them on the rich. much of this has gone unresponded to by romney. here you have a debate. the one time when romney can address 67 million americans unfiltered by the media and with no ads to clutter it up. utterly demolishes the strong man of romney -- i mean of obama with argument and facts. he won on an avalanche of fact which totally took apart the narrative. he showed he could not raise the taxes on the middle class. he showed he demonstrated again and again that the share of taxes will remain the same under him. you take away this man you take away the idea of capitalists who cares for no one and there's nothing left in the obama c
mitt romney is surging ahead of president obama in national and battle ground polls. will it have the obama campaign in panic mode? charles krauthammer says yes. >> the polls are dropping like a stone for president obama. they created an entire narrative about romney hundreds of millions of dollars of ads showing him as an unfeeling uncaring man who de lights in killing steel worker's wives in raising taxes on the middle class lowering them on the rich. much of this has gone unresponded...
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this morning's poll shows 49% of likely voters favor romney. 47% support obama. jan crawford is in akron, ohio, covering the romney campaign. >> reporter: the race is really tightening here in ohio, a state that romney must-win. one poll has him up by one poipt, another poll has the president up by four. it's essentially a tie. what we're seeing here, especially yesterday the president is taking romney's point and turning it on him. romney goes on to talk about a lit any of issues facing america on the jobs and economy and also for today we have that big congressional hearing on libya. america crossroads is backing romney is out with a new ad against the president on libya. it's brutal. take a listen. >> intelligence was there, clear signs of terrorism. but campaign politics came first. >> reporter: this is against the backdrop of tomorrow night's vice presidential debate in kentucky. vice president joe biden against congressman paul ryan. polls show people think ryan will win this debate, 55% think rhine will win compared to 39% for the vice president. they have
this morning's poll shows 49% of likely voters favor romney. 47% support obama. jan crawford is in akron, ohio, covering the romney campaign. >> reporter: the race is really tightening here in ohio, a state that romney must-win. one poll has him up by one poipt, another poll has the president up by four. it's essentially a tie. what we're seeing here, especially yesterday the president is taking romney's point and turning it on him. romney goes on to talk about a lit any of issues facing...
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first ohio poll of late. big jump for mitt romney. he is now 47%. it's right within the margin of error, but president obama is only leading there by four points and mitt romney has made a big gain there. if you look at michigan, according to an epic poll, mitt romney has gained eight points. you can see on the right side of the screen back in september. on the left side of the screen is where they are now, while the president dropped one point. and new hampshire, he has gained four points according to a wmur poll. what's the strategy, going into the vice presidential debate, what's the plan to turn this around? >> we don't think anything needs to be turned around. this race was going to be close. our strategy is to get out there, energize and engage our voters. when people look at the choice it's going to be pretty clear to them that president obama is a better choice for the middle class. we feel very confident in our ground game and we're implementing that across the country. the president was in ohio yesterday, the voter registration deadline, e
first ohio poll of late. big jump for mitt romney. he is now 47%. it's right within the margin of error, but president obama is only leading there by four points and mitt romney has made a big gain there. if you look at michigan, according to an epic poll, mitt romney has gained eight points. you can see on the right side of the screen back in september. on the left side of the screen is where they are now, while the president dropped one point. and new hampshire, he has gained four points...
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"the agenda," the bump in the polls fading for mitt romney in advance of nbc's newest polling numbers? we examine the latest tightening of the presidential race. r is there a premature panic among president obama's supporters? we call them the a-team. responding to former president bill clinton and first lady michelle obama and vp joe biden. october 10 mar, anti-bullying. why more people are wearing orange. we will see new just a couple of minutes. l health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has more of 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enough. a smarter way to shop around. now that's progressive. call or click today. [ grunting ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy req
"the agenda," the bump in the polls fading for mitt romney in advance of nbc's newest polling numbers? we examine the latest tightening of the presidential race. r is there a premature panic among president obama's supporters? we call them the a-team. responding to former president bill clinton and first lady michelle obama and vp joe biden. october 10 mar, anti-bullying. why more people are wearing orange. we will see new just a couple of minutes. l health plays a key role throughout...
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other polls say 3% or whatever. clearly, there is a movement towards mitt romney. clearly other black women will be voting for him. >> yes. >> what is your message to those out there who feel they can't because there's a black president, they feel a duty, perhaps a sense of loyalty to him because of the color of his skin to vote for him? >> what do i say to them? i say do your homework. look at your country. think about the next four years of your life. you know? also, look at mitt romney's track record as a ceo, he's excelled. as the governor of massachusetts, he did quite well. and you know, listen to what he says. i believe him. i believe he deserves a shot. >> well, whether people agree with you or not, i absolutely defend your right to be here, to vote for who you like. the idiots tweeting you are, to coin a phrase, clueless. >> oh, dear. >> stacey dash, been a pleasure to see you. >> thank you so much, piers. >> you keep battling your own corner. stacey dash has made up her mind. other female voters seem to be changing their minds. will they be the tipping po
other polls say 3% or whatever. clearly, there is a movement towards mitt romney. clearly other black women will be voting for him. >> yes. >> what is your message to those out there who feel they can't because there's a black president, they feel a duty, perhaps a sense of loyalty to him because of the color of his skin to vote for him? >> what do i say to them? i say do your homework. look at your country. think about the next four years of your life. you know? also, look at...
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romney will stop using glenn dougherty's story. >>> the polls have moved mitt romney a bit away from the democrats and democrats are jumpy right now. should they be? one democrat said that's my party, irrational, overconfident, sometimes near irrational despair. but i say take -- well, buckle your seat belts and start driving this campaign and stop worrying so much. here's one mini thought, less big bird and more big dog. >> so at the debate they got together and said, hey, man, this ship is sinking faster than the titanic. but people are still frustrated about the economy. they want it fixed yesterday. so just show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. >> that's bill clinton showing the democrats how to take on romney/ryan. let's hope they get the message starting now. >>> also, what really happened in that fatal attack in benghazi? republicans are charged with the state department with lack security. republicans say democrats are trying to score points off a tragedy. a ceo says if a certain candidate wins presidency, he may have to fir
romney will stop using glenn dougherty's story. >>> the polls have moved mitt romney a bit away from the democrats and democrats are jumpy right now. should they be? one democrat said that's my party, irrational, overconfident, sometimes near irrational despair. but i say take -- well, buckle your seat belts and start driving this campaign and stop worrying so much. here's one mini thought, less big bird and more big dog. >> so at the debate they got together and said, hey, man,...
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obama has a four-point lead up over romney, the cnn poll. the polls tightening across the country in those battleground states. florida, a democratic caller. alan, we will go back to our topic. caller: from the 2003 opinion, justice o'connor, it encapsulates it. the constitution does not prevent consideration of race. i believe they also said in that opinion that race could not be the primary factor, it could be one of many factors. i think that -- i would hope there could be a way where -- there were people that were more qualified. i think that procedure could be discriminatory, but i would hope that we would find a way to say that this procedure, as it is being applied, does violate the constitution, but not strike down all programs designed to include racial equality and be a diverse student body. host: why this system specifically? do you think it goes a step farther? it takes the top 10 from each school, and then for the next round of admissions it includes race at that point as well? caller: i think i agree with what the gentlemen sai
obama has a four-point lead up over romney, the cnn poll. the polls tightening across the country in those battleground states. florida, a democratic caller. alan, we will go back to our topic. caller: from the 2003 opinion, justice o'connor, it encapsulates it. the constitution does not prevent consideration of race. i believe they also said in that opinion that race could not be the primary factor, it could be one of many factors. i think that -- i would hope there could be a way where --...
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. >> a gallup poll shows that romney has a small lead over president obama. from the voters 49 to 40 percent edge over the president. that is the latest period of give we have the vice presidential debate live seriously damaged the strip mall will have more and that in just a minute. >> here is stanley roberts finding some people behaving badly. this is this intersection of 98 avenue in san leandro. this is the intersection of 98 and new and macarthur. confined light runners at both intersections. the drivers are running the light which is against the flaw and unsafe. the two intersections could be locations of a new red light cameras. there are 13 red light cam was operating at 11 different intersection. 66 at san leandro not far from the oakland coliseum. in my years of covering traffic violators i consider myself an expert. i did not see a whole lot of red light on it which made me question the red light cameras. you cannot argue the fact that in the first six months of 2010 oakland had only one collision with a red light cameras were located. when i read
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. >> storming the battleground, mitt romney plants his flag in ohio where new polls show he is within four points of president obama. his wingman today, chris christie. >> now we're down to the time where everybody is paying attention. now we're down to the time where the lights are the brightest, and the american people have to decide what's their future? >> president obama in ohio trying to rally the base at ohio state asking residents to vote early. >> the bus is around the corner that can get you there and back. don't wait. do not delay. go vote today. >> seriously off message the romney campaign tries to clean up, the governor's comments to "the des moines register" about abortion. >> do you intend to pursue any legislation specifically regarding abortion? >> i don't -- there's no legislation with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. one thing which i would change however which would be done by executive order not legislation, i would reinstate the mexico city policy. >> affirmative action, civil rights group rally as the supreme court r
. >> storming the battleground, mitt romney plants his flag in ohio where new polls show he is within four points of president obama. his wingman today, chris christie. >> now we're down to the time where everybody is paying attention. now we're down to the time where the lights are the brightest, and the american people have to decide what's their future? >> president obama in ohio trying to rally the base at ohio state asking residents to vote early. >> the bus is...
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a week ago before the debate the same number and poll that had warren ahead by four had romney losing by 28 in massachusetts. i've always been saying you think back to weld/kerry the '96 senate race, as a model, weld outperformed bob dole by 26 points that year. it wasn't quite enough because dole lost the state by 33. i've been saying the measurement in massachusetts if romney loses by 30 or more, warren is your next senator, 25 to 30 a toss up, less than 25, brown's going to win. and that's -- a week ago in the 25 to 30 range, now it's back down. >> that's almost a nate sill veer yan set of data points. luke, the other race -- there are many races an we're not going to get to all of them in this segment but todd akin when you talk about republicans going to and fro in their support fiscally and ideological todd akin is still giving claire mcka cas kill a run for her money. her camp says she's up nine points, the akin camp claims he's up two, dueling polls, but needless to say todd akin is still in this thing. you mentioned the republicans are not going to -- needless to say todd aki
a week ago before the debate the same number and poll that had warren ahead by four had romney losing by 28 in massachusetts. i've always been saying you think back to weld/kerry the '96 senate race, as a model, weld outperformed bob dole by 26 points that year. it wasn't quite enough because dole lost the state by 33. i've been saying the measurement in massachusetts if romney loses by 30 or more, warren is your next senator, 25 to 30 a toss up, less than 25, brown's going to win. and that's...